I Have Blonde Hair and Blue Eyes in Spanish
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| Mexico has a mix of people from Europe. I would not be surprised by meeting any sort of blond or blue eyed people born there. I know Chinese-Mexicans. There were German settlers. |
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| ya they do exist .....i dated a German mennonite girl whos family was from Mexico and she was blonde and i think blue eyed so i think they are out there. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by outboard I was told there are certain towns in Mexico where the mexicans have blonde hair and blue eyes and are od total Spanish decent. Is this possible? I know that during World War 2 there were German's who set up bases in Mexico planning to attack the US and they had relations with the women. So there are certain areas that have German influence. I just have never heard of the blonde haired blue eyed true Mexican. Once again, I am posting about the "Spanish Casta". Those blonde, haired, blue-eyed Mexicans do indeed exist. They are either "criollos" or "castizos" in the Spanish Casta - a social hierarchy based on degree of European blood quantum and lighter-skin complexions. Sociologists refer to such discrimination as "colorism". Here is the hierarchy: The "mixed-blooded" Mexican is often assumed to be part indigenous (e.g. Aztec) but could just as well be part West African. The human genome of Mexico is an example of syncretism - the blending of multiple ethnicities to form a new culture. The genetic ancestry of Mexico can be traced to Spain, West Africa, and Indigenous America. As for Spain, their genome is very diverse with Germanic tribes, North Africans, Europeans, and even the Middle East from the days of the Ancient Phoenicians. Spain itself is genetically diverse. So, the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Mexicans do exist - and they are either "criollos" or "castizos". The Latin "Telenovela" prefers to cast "criollos" or "castizos" in prominent roles and often place darkers "Mestizos" or "Indios" into roles as servants. Meanwhile, I have never met a Mexican willing to admit the West African ancestry that is very common (albeit not obvious) in the country's genetic ancestry. The white blondes are at the top of the social hierarchy. Here, Telenovela is called out for colorism in its obvious form. They just keep doing it though. Here is a "California blonde" of Mexican descent Telenovela would love. Ironically, Hollywood won't cast her as a Latina because she looks too "white". Meanwhile, Telenovela prefers casting such lighter-skinned, Eurocentric actresses who are also Mexican. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by grad_student200 Once again, I am posting about the "Spanish Casta". Those blonde, haired, blue-eyed Mexicans do indeed exist. They are either "criollos" or "castizos" in the Spanish Casta - a social hierarchy based on degree of European blood quantum and lighter-skin complexions. Sociologists refer to such discrimination as "colorism". Here is the hierarchy: This Spanish Colonial racial terms are very outdated to be honest. Most Mexicans don't even know what "Castizo" or "Criollo" means. Many do, however, know and related to the term "Mestizo" as thats what the Government has been telling every Mexican that they are, a mixture of Native and Spanish. Quote: Originally Posted by grad_student200 The "mixed-blooded" Mexican is often assumed to be part indigenous (e.g. Aztec) but could just as well be part West African. The human genome of Mexico is an example of syncretism - the blending of multiple ethnicities to form a new culture. The genetic ancestry of Mexico can be traced to Spain, West Africa, and Indigenous America. As for Spain, their genome is very diverse with Germanic tribes, North Africans, Europeans, and even the Middle East from the days of the Ancient Phoenicians. Spain itself is genetically diverse. Mexico does have communities of African descent people, particularly in the state of Veracruz, Chiapas and Guerrero. Many of this people lived very secluded from the rest of the population. Also, in genetic testing it has been proved that most Mexican Mestizos carry anywhere from 1-7% of West African DNA, which is a very small amount but that sprinkle its there. Many carry this due to the slave trade there was back in the New Spain. At one point, there was more Mulatto people in all of New Spain than there was Spaniards and Natives. So it makes sense that Mexicans in current times will carry a sprinkle of African DNA, even the ones that have predominantly Spanish/European descent. The thing is that because the percentages of African DNA found on most Mexicans are so low, it doesn't manifest in their phenotype, like it does on other Central American or Puerto Ricans who carry a larger amount of African DNA. |
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| Okay here is the thing. Media is all garbage and in most South American places there are people with various skin colors, to hair types, and face shapes which are only residence of South America. However as for hair color and eyes it really depends. I have seen it the Odd yellow, white, colorng, with odd blue eyes and what is blonde hair. They exsist but not as many |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by outboard I was told there are certain towns in Mexico where the mexicans have blonde hair and blue eyes and are od total Spanish decent. Is this possible? I know that during World War 2 there were German's who set up bases in Mexico planning to attack the US and they had relations with the women. So there are certain areas that have German influence. I just have never heard of the blonde haired blue eyed true Mexican. I love these topics because it just shows how clueless people are of their own neighbours. Blond and Blue Eyed Mexicans??? No way! I've never seen them in movies or in person....but little do they know (I'm also assuming the OP is from the USA, where most people are educated by Hollywood and the stereotypes they love to push and keep dumbing down their own population...) that many of those Mexicans walk among them. You see them on screen like Uma Thurman, Alexis Bledel or Fergie (BEP) and you would never know they're Mexican or have Mexican heritage....like the original Wonder Woman: Lynda Carter. Mexicans and the rest of Latinos/Hispanics were considered "White" even before Italians, Greeks, Jews and Eastern Europeans were and right after the Irish were considered this. But the "woke" Chicano studies people fought to take out Hispanics/Latinos from the white category in the 1970's to be more of a struggling minority I guess? We see something similar happening with the MENA crowd trying to take Arabs, North Africans and Persians/people from the Middle East out of the "White" category. ANYWAYS...of course there's blond Mexicans. Many recent studies have actually found that around 20% of the Mexican population has blond hair and around 35% has blue or green eyes. Studies like those from Mexican government departments like INEGI in the last 5 years. "White" Mexicans can range from anywhere from 22%-46% of the Mexican population. So of course blond and blue eyed people will go in there somewhere. As to towns being predominantly of these backgrounds?? Of course. All over. You see towns like this predominantly in Western and Northern Mexico. Why?? Because of both historical and recent migrations. Western Mexico was part of the Reino de Nueva Galicia and hundreds of thousands if not over a million northern Spanish families moved to this region to populate the area...but there was also an ethnocide (Which not many will want to talk about) that happened where the natives were mainly killed off by both disease and by the sword. The few tribes that survived, like that of the Huicholes, were pushed to the mountains where they still live...and the Purepechas who are more numerous but also pushed to their own towns. In northern Mexico it was a similar story but not many natives lived here so Spanish families, and families from all around the Spanish Empire in Europe (Two Sicilies, Netherlands, parts of Germany and Austria, Portugal, etc...) moved here to push Catholicism. As well as Crypto-Jews or Sephardic which are very common in Western and Northern Mexico. As to more recent (1800's to today) migrations...Western Mexico received thousands of families from Asturias, Galicia, Cantabria (Mexico's current president is a descendant of Cantabrian immigrants for example), Basque Country, etc....and the north, from Sinaloa an Durango to the north) besides Spaniards, they received Germans, Italians, Dutch, Boer, Lebanese, Syrian, Palestinian, Swiss, Swedish, British, Irish, Polish, Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian, Bosniak, Greek, and other nationalities to populate the whole northern region to counter American expansion. Today, Sonora is the "Whitest" state in Mexico followed by Chihuahua, Nuevo Leon and Jalisco but also followed by Michoacan, Tamaulipas, Sinaloa, Baja California, Coahuila, Durango, Zacatecas, Guanajuato, Queretaro, Aguascalientes and San Luis Potosi. These last ones having large white and castizo (Mestizos with more European admixture) majorities. You have "Gueros de Rancho" all over the country, besides the state I mentioned but they're very famous in the states I mentioned. You have many blond country folk in Michoacan, Guanajuato, Jalisco, Sinaloa, Sonora, Tamaulipas, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Chihuahua, Nuevo Leon...these are the "Redneck" equivalents in Mexico. As to famous towns with mainly white people...I'll mention little/medium towns: Chipilo, Puebla (This town was one of the dozens of agricultural colonies by northern Italian migrants...another famous one being Zentla, Veracruz and Gutierrez Zamora, Veracruz, which the oldest of these colonies from the 1850's, even though most Italians that migrated to Mexico did so with their families or on their own outside these colonies); San Rafael, Veracruz (Town founded by French migrants from Haute Saone region near Dijon but later migrations from all over France joined and expanded to nearby towns); Allende, Nuevo Leon; the whole region of Los Altos de Jalisco but I will mention Capilla de Guadalupe and Arandas as examples, any Mennonite town in Chihuahua but also Colonia Juarez, Chihuahua , which was founded by American Mormons and still populated by their descendants (Mitt Romney anyone?) most little towns in Sonora, etc.... Most Americans portray Mexicans as mestizos with more indigenous admixture because recent migrants (Since the 1980's) come from states which are predominantly of indigenous background (Oaxaca, Puebla, Chiapas, Guerrero, Morelos, Hidalgo) and even afromexican (Oaxaca and Guerrero) but many migrants from Michoacan, Zacatecas, Durango, Jalisco, Sonora and Chihuahua are more castizos and whites, breaking those stereotypes. Mexico is a very diverse country in all aspects. But even many Mexicans won't know this since it is a very centralized country and Mexico City controls the media. So besides the novelas showing that all rich Mexicans are white (To a point this is true) they show the rest as mestizos and poor indigenous. I refer to the "Gueros de Rancho" whom are white Mexicans who are not rich, but also belonging to that Middle Class that Mexico City doesn't seem to quite acknowledge since cities like Monterrey, Guadalajara, Hermosillo, Culiacan, San Luis Potosi, Morelia, Leon, Aguascalientes, Queretaro...will show you that their working class is mainly white and castizo as well, not just mestizo. PS: Going back to the last point...Mexico has a large German community spread out around the country.. But there were places with German majorities where there was an espionage system among them...the Nazis marched in downtown Mexico City leaving from the German Club on Lopez Street (Near Chinatown and Palacio Nacional/Alameda Central and Calle Lopez became one of the Little Spain's but for civil war refugees instead of "normal" migrants like in La Merced for example...which was also a neighbourhood full of so many backgrounds like Mexico's Brooklyn) and had/have a strong German enclave in Barrio Berlin in Mixcoac, but also in Puebla and in Veracruz they had little German towns but the strongest one was near Tapachula, Chiapas where you can still visit the family estates which are these beautiful German style homes sticking out of the Chiapaneco jungles and mountains where they grow coffee...Union Juarez is a very German looking town and the "Casona" was owned by Eva Braun's brother....and many German officers ended up escaping here and Mazatlan, Sinaloa....another heavily German populated city. Today the German Club building, beautiful building, is pretty much in decay and has been occupied by Trikis indigenous groups from Oaxaca. Mexico is so diverse and I invite everyone to visit. I can't wait to visit again. I wish to write a book on this diversity one day to break the stereotypes and try to show how culturally diverse Mexico is today. Cheers. |
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| Are there blonde-eyed blue-haired Mexicans? |
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| We're about 30 minutes away from the Mexican border and Tijuana. And yes we see the occasional blond and blue eyed folks with Mexican plates coming into town. Strictly personal observation but they seem to be well dressed and driving expensive cars. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by msgsing We're about 30 minutes away from the Mexican border and Tijuana. And yes we see the occasional blond and blue eyed folks with Mexican plates coming into town. Strictly personal observation but they seem to be well dressed and driving expensive cars. Baja has an interesting history when it comes to the peoples that populated the area. Of course, many Europeans and Euro-Americans as well and people from Sonora and lately people from the rest of the country as well as Asians and even people from other parts of the Americas like Colombia, Haiti, Central America, Cuba, Venezuela, etc...joining of course the sparsely populated area by indigenous groups. I won't try to pretend that Mexico also has a problem with systemic racism and those at the top tend to be those of European and even Arab background, this includes people of the Jewish faith as well, these days so it's not surprising to see blond haired and blue eyed Mexicans in Tijuana driving more expensive cars and dressed well....Tijuana is a growing city with a large Middle Class and Upper Class population contrasted with those who try to cross from all parts of the world through the border illegally. |
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| The first person I met who would have been a recent immigrant from Mexico looked like a white man. Blond hair and blue eyes. He spoke very little English. It was in Kansas City Kansas. He worked a minimum wage job and was saving his money so he could go back to Mexico. He said if he could save $5000.00 he could live like a king for the rest of his life. This was in 1970. He basically lived like a hobo washing up at the YMCA and bringing his trunk to work. Kansas City Kansas has a very old and historic Mexican population going back to at least the Santa Fe Trail Days. |
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